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Re: Dear Activision,

in reply to starbuckfrack

If they use regular games to do balance changes, it is already too late. Look how many issues they still have after what, 20 patches, with 15 of them having balance changes.

And if a killstreak is in the beta, OF COURSE they can get rid of it. Code for the beta being 6 months old won't keep them from preparing an update for the game's launch.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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Listen one more time.

If the code in the beta is six months old then the code in the PRESENT code is still in there. Thats means if they released a beta like they did with BF4 (one month before release) then it is too late to remove or change the code in the main game.

Even a minor change in the code can destroy gameplay. Imagine what would happen if the removed an entire killstreak.

Say if the beta had commando, well in the present code AND the beta there would still be commando. So how are they going to change out an entire game with commando one month before release ?

It takes at LEAST 5 weeks for them to go thru the procedure of releasing a patch and that is IF Microsoft agrees with it. So how in one month are they going to get feedback, test a change, approve a change, and send the disk out for gold release in one month ?

BF4 was just released as beta. Do you really think that in the beta they are able to make changes to the game that customers want (I am talking major changes) , get approval, make it to press at the distributor in release for 10-29s release? No they cant and no they wont. Anything in the BF4 beta is not going to go with any major changes by release time and never will after release.

When you deal with a major game release you not only have to deal with the coding side of the release but also all the red tape that goes with it. This isnt a 2 dimensional Earthworm Jim we are talking about here.

you notice that they didnt have a beta AGAIN for the game. Because they didnt want one. Period. Time to live in reality, you dont own the game and you dont have a clue to what goes on behind the scenes. You are on the outside looking in. You think you are the first one to come up with reasons that you think might work in having a beta for COD ?

The topic is old and dead.

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Re: Dear Activision,

in reply to starbuckfrack

BTW they did have a beta and it was played months ago. It was a private beta and they only had people play it that would not give away any secrets of the game.

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Re: Dear Activision,

in reply to starbuckfrack

And that sample size is tiny compared to the same size of a public beta on all platforms.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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Exactly my point. Instead of 2 weeks into release, then 5 weeks of patching process, they could have a few weeks of beta time to start on the patch, and depending on how big/small the change is, have it ready for the day 1 update that all games have or have it shortly after release, instead of a month down the line.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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Did you notice that the game you DID compare to COD didnt have a beta ? GTA didnt have a public beta.

Want to know one of the reasons why ? Because they did not want to let the cat out of the bag.

You didnt get a beta and you WONT get a beta.

If you want a beta then wait til the next COD game comes out because you wont get one now.

And how are they going to be ready on the day one update ? Mail everyone their copy a day early and FedEx them overnight ?

What you dont seem to understand a BETA is for testing the server output that is all. Not a chance to give you a sneak peek at the game. You want to get into the next private beta, then start kissing the bums of some people that can get you in. Not crying because you didnt get one this time around either.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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I did not ONCE compare CoD to GTA. The only time GTA was mentioned was saying that it is creaming CoD in sales.

Also I wonder how they'll have a day one update for everyone without shipping games early, oh wait, this invention called title updates. If you think betas are used for only server testing you are dumb. Dice has a test server on the beta where they test for bugs and get people to help them.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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superbob wrote:



I did not ONCE compare CoD to GTA. The only time GTA was mentioned was saying that it is creaming CoD in sales.



Also I wonder how they'll have a day one update for everyone without shipping games early, oh wait, this invention called title updates. If you think betas are used for only server testing you are dumb. Dice has a test server on the beta where they test for bugs and get people to help them.


Title updates are not major changes to a game. A title update for example will not remove a killstreak, just tweak it.

when you used GTA as an example you COMPARED the sales in that game COMPARED to the sales in this game.

Your comparison showed nothing. GTA still didnt have a beta regardless if you feel it was a comparison or not.

COD games for the past few years sold MORE than any of the other years before it and they didnt have a beta. If having a beta were to affect sales and make them MORE money in sales than going thru all the red tape and money of running a beta they would have done it. But it DIDNT make them come out ahead, hence they ended it.

You know how much just running a beta on Xbox Live costs ? Are you willing to fork out the money for it ?

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Re: Dear Activision,

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Title updates are MAJOR updates. Minor updates are done through hotfixing.

And do you know how much money Activision makes, I think they can afford to pay for a beta, which in turn will help their game sell more because it won't suck.

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Re: Dear Activision,

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Title update are MINOR fixes. Look at the last patch that they released for Black Ops, do you see anything in there more than tweaks or bug fixes ? No.

Did you see at any point in the game when they removed a killstreak ? No.

Xbox Community Update (9/18/13) Tell me, where in the history of Black Ops did they make a patch after the release of the game where they made a major change in the game. They cant because the game is already coded in.

You may not realize this but the amount a game makes is not all pure profit. They have bills to pay, salaries, banks to pay off, investors to pay, etc.

Even IF the very slim chance it was pure profit why would they want to spend money on a beta when they game already is one of the top sellers in the world.

You remember when thay said "screw last stand " and basically still left it in the game. Why was it that they couldnt just remove it with a patch ? Because regardless of what customers think they left the game the way THEY wanted to.

As to catering to first time players, a companies goal is to expand their customer database as far as it can. And if it means catering to noobs and 13 years olds so be it. They owe nothing to us COD veterans. Times always change and the veterans get pushed out to make way for the young . Happens in every job in history, some little upstart that knows nothing takes over the job you were meant to have. You either go with the flow or get out of the way.

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