Probation needs to go

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Re: Probation needs to go

in reply to trialstardragon

I'm sorry, but your argument is just stupid! I paid $60 for the game plus season dlc pass, totaling about $80! I should be able to play how I want to as long as I'm not cheating at the game. There aren't any serious effects to people playing if others leave (maybe a host migration that gets you killed, so what); you spawn back in play and eventually new people come in, it's not like they were doing much anyways for the team if they left in the first place. It's absolutely ridiculous to be put in "timeout" for leaving a game; some people have lives and need to leave immeadiately sometimes. I also don't like joining in the middle of a game of Domination losing 189 to 89 triple capped with stealth choppers, agrs and swarms (happened to me today, first game of the day). I paid for the game, I can do w/e I want as long as it isn't cheating or hacking. Treyarch needs to get their heads out of their butts and try to fix other bigger issues in the game than people leaving! That is on the bottom of the list of things they should be worried about, the top of this list being people returning/not buying anymore cods from them!

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Re: Probation needs to go

I know how you feel about getting your a** handed to you. Nothing like going 0-10 in the first few minutes of the game. However. I also relies that its unfair to the rest of the players for me to quit. Weather I'm the host or not game play is affected by me leaving. So i just stick it out and get my 3-18 k/d then i leave the lobby at the end of the game.

In my experience most people who send invites are courteous enough to wait til you finish your current match before the head into a lobby. I don't think anyone will fault you for finishing up a game.

I've been put on probation before so i feel your pain but in the end its a needed system.

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Re: Probation needs to go

There is no place for probation in casual public games. I can understand it in league games and clan games, but casual public games where players are not as hardcore as the league players does not need this. When I am placed into game where players have left and the team I have been placed on is losing by 20 or 30 points (team deathmatch). Why would I want to stay? The game is lost if I stay or leave, so I leave. I get probation for leaving, but maybe I should have the option to only join a pre-match lobby where the game, but no, that's not available, so I constantly get placed in games that are already lost.

As for leaving games while host, where is my option not to be selected as a host? Doesn't exist.

So I will continue to leave a game if I'm placed in a losing match instead of a pre-match lobby, same result if I stay or leave. I will get a probation no doubt. Same if I wish to stop playing during a game and return to the dashboard, I seem to be selected as host quite often, but as far as I'm concerned, if I have had enough of playing and want to go to the dashboard, why should I go through the scenario of waiting for the game to finish?  I don't care if you other players lose points. You are of no interest to me at all. I find most other players on this game play a selfish game and use selfish attitudes. I see no reason why I should be any different from the rest of you.

So if I'm host and decide I've had enough of playing and dashboard. Then tough, I don't care what you think. Treyarch should offer 2 options. Only join a pre-match lobby and do not select me as host. Until then, i will continue to leave games how and when I like, probation or not, nothing has changed.

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Re: Probation needs to go

in reply to Holloguts

Heres an interesting experiment I ran with a couple of buddies, Party of 3 whenever I was party leader we were placed in games that were towards the end every single time. When one of the others was party leader we were placed in starting lobbies every single time. The other guy it was 50/50.

We did this over several days prior and post DLC.

The common factor turned out to be hosting capability. I never get host. The guy who always got starting lobbies was host 80% of the time.

The third guy was 50/50 on hosting.

Now critics can bang on about guys dashing but if they are getting a massively different experience due to always being put in part games then its unreasonable to criticise or punish them imho. Walk a mile in their shoes etc..

Also when I was party leader the game would split the party up around 30% of the time, curiously it shows everyone together on the leaders screen in pre match lobby even though they are out. Often you dont detect they are gone until the game starts and we realise we are in different games, result? Dash out.- Once more I think the game is going, hey this player would be a good host we can use him here, you dont matter so you can stay there!

Easy answer is to fix these issues rather than hit the players with a punishment imho.

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Re: Probation needs to go

in reply to Holloguts

Holloguts wrote:

There is no place for probation in casual public games. I can understand it in league games and clan games, but casual public games where players are not as hardcore as the league players does not need this. When I am placed into game where players have left and the team I have been placed on is losing by 20 or 30 points (team deathmatch). Why would I want to stay? The game is lost if I stay or leave, so I leave. I get probation for leaving, but maybe I should have the option to only join a pre-match lobby where the game, but no, that's not available, so I constantly get placed in games that are already lost.

League doesn't need probation. You simply cannot exit the game once it has begun, and the players are not revealed until the time the game has counted down. If you leave at any point, it's an automatic loss. The reason for this *gasp* is to stop people from dodging games they think they will lose.

Some call that lag. Some call it an unbalanced lobby. Some do it just because they don't like the map. In any case people jump ship because they think their going to play poorly, lower their KDR or just play badly. In real competition you don't get to choose all the variables and you simply play.

I think the probation for Public matches is great. Lobbies sat in limbo, players ducked fair fights and people simply didn't want to play because of a minor inconvenience. Multiplayer is not the same as single player. If you want to play select maps, with everything you want with no lag, make a bot game. If you choose to partake in multiplayer matches (which requires multiple players) than you accept the fact that there are rules to increase the gameplay for all players. Picking and choosing lobbies, maps and advantages simply aren't on the menu.

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Re: Probation needs to go

That's what I hear.

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Re: Probation needs to go

Meh its easy to get around really. I already found the glitch around. Until then if the game is playing like normal (laggy, you come into the middle of a game that is a no win situation, players are lag switching you which by the way is happening ALOT) then do this.  Find a spot to hide and just sit there.  Alot of maps have these spots and enemy players will never even notice you AT ALL.  1.You take up a spot that another player could have used if they allowed you to leave and still make it so the other team outnumbers yours. 2. you don't get probation.  No where does it say you HAVE to participate. Way to go failarch.

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Re: Probation needs to go

To the OP:

The reason you were given probation is very clear cut and you have pretty much admitted it:

You dashboarded three times within a very short period of time. You did so when you landed in a match that was not to your liking in Game 1.

You did so again when you accepted an invite to join a party. Now that one they probably gave you for free.

Nonetheless, when your party decided to leave the match, undoubtedly the party host dashboarded. That's part of the reason I don't play with clans. I can't control when the party host decides he's getting spanked and decides to dashboard.

In any case, the game worked exactly as designed: you were penalized for dashboarding, not because you "backed out of a game."

The good news is that since you won't be playing the game anymore you won't have to worry about your kdr or wlr or even whether or not you land on a map you don't like.

"At the end of the match, there remains only ... nuttin 2 say."
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Re: Probation needs to go

Stop leaving matches! Its not hard to stay and complete a match if you get into a match thats 30 to 40 your lucky usally I get into matches that are like 30 to 60 but I stick it out because my W/L is so high because I don't leave matches to get a automatic loss. U are mad that you got reset, you left 4 straight matches in a row and I garantee you that its because you were doing bad usually thats the case. You deserve to get probation, 5 minutes is a joke, your lucky they don't give you hours/days/weeks because it sounds like this has happend many times before. I love this system I wish they had this back in the other CODs. Also how are they making it so you act a certain way thats why they give you 5min probation everytime nothing more, nothing less. Why would you even play a game like this when your just going to quit half way through each match, Im sure treyarch and activison will miss you .

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