The Grinder

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Re: The Grinder

in reply to NiceDrewishFela

I am right there with you man I have about 50 kills left on the chicom to get art of war and cherry blossom ( I do both challenges at the same time to save time). And its frustrating i am already dreading doing the scorpion and mp7 with no attachments and perks those things i'm over halfway with the headshots with those guns. For some reason my diamonds on ARs seemed much easier I reached diamond on those before i maxed out the gun on Prestige 2 but with the smg it looks like i'll max the guns out before i finish diamond with those and the LMGs should be a breeze besides the iron sights on the MK 48 not looking forward to that thing.

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Been working on my LSAT, haven't messed around with the other LMGs all that much. Almost to Gold on the LSAT though, when I am done with SMGs I may move on to the Big Guns lol



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Re: The Grinder

in reply to NiceDrewishFela

I pretty much only play core, but this might be useful advice anyway.

I use Rapid Fire, Suppressor and Extended mags on my Scorpion. The reasoning behind that is that the gun has so little range anyway, the two attachments work together rather well. Also, the gun needs more ammo.

I have no idea how that would work in Hardcore, but I think it will be a two shot kill. The thing is, at 1800 RPM, that's not much of an issue

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Re: The Grinder

in reply to Joco30001

Rapid fire is an interesting idea, but in HC the recoil is very noticeable and the Skorpion runs out of ammo so quickly as it is, I am afraid I will just miss and be caught with my pants down. The extended mags I may have to consider though, for this very reason.



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Re: The Grinder

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I just wanted to say I feel for you. The Scorpion was a horribly hard challange for me too. You're either getting 3 shot kills with it, or emptying a whole clip for hitmarkers. The Chicom will be easy once you get used to it. Really, I was averaging 5-7 headshots a game with it. Put on Toughness and Scavenger (I'm not a HC player, I don't know how well it will help you) and a Fast Mag/Laser sight combo on it. The Vector is the only "hard" one besides the Scorpion just because it does 33(?) damage per shot with a weak headshot multiplyer and usually misses if you're not right on center of mass. But, once you get the subs diamond you'll love them. My favorites by far are the MP7, Chicom, and Vector.

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I do like the ChiCom, but I feel like its schizophrenic as well. Sometimes its like a sniper rifle with its range and accuracy, other times its just off and on. I have been doing well  with it, and I think it will be the next SMG I focus on. I will typically choose one weapon from a class to work on and try to use it exclusively until I am done with it, unless it just doesn't suit the map I am on or the needs of my team. Right now its the Skorpion. Pray for me lol



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Re: The Grinder

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Hopefully you can finish up that abortion of a gun soon. I find the Scorpion to be good with a fast mag and target finder. The target finder just seems to lower the recoil for some reason. Also about the Chicom, try to use it more like you would if you used an FAL spamming it. Don't mash the RT down all the way, find the butter zone. You can easily 2-burst people with it and drop them faster than a PDW or MSMC.

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Re: The Grinder

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Absolutely. I am not a fan of the Target Finder, but when I slapped that bad boy onto my Skorpion I was suddenly able to get long range kills without it bouncing around like a epileptic kitten. So when I put attachments back on it, I think it may just have to go back into action.

The ChiCom bursts amazingly fast. I like your idea of thinking of it kind of like the FAL, which took me a while to get used to as well. I think I try to use it like my SWAT, which in HC typically will take down enemies with one clean, accurate burst. The Chicom won't, I have to remember to pump it a few times. I tend to mash, so like you said I have to find the fire point on my trigger.



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Re: The Grinder

in reply to NiceDrewishFela

Lol i told you they would be a pain when you first mentioned going for them next.

On my end of things im close to finishing ARs so decided to start on SMGs when the smaller maps came up. The skorpion was the first i went for(decided to use a perm on it since it is such a high lvl unlock) and have had moderate sucess with it.

My class for HCKC using SMGs:

Skorpion

Fast mag/silencer

Lightweight/hardline

No perk 2

Marathon/dexterity

Perk 1 greed/perk 2 greed

Emp nade.

You can swap out what ever primary and attachments you prefer. So far though fast mags and silencer has been my winner. I also find the combonation of marathon,lightweight and dexterity to be brutaly effecient. You can run up to a corner, stop and there is almost no delay between stopping and being able to raise the gun, i some times will slap quickdraw on to get an even further edge over my opponent. I mainly use hardline just to get scorestreaks a little easier, to help my team continue to win while i am grinding these abominations lol. The emp nade serves the same purpose in aiding my team in the win. Quick removal of sentry,guardia hell even dragon fires.

Also i highly recomend as soon as you are done with the headshot challenges, prestige the weapon and do both the no perk and no attachment challenges all in one go. That away you only gimp yourself for 150 kills as opposed to 300. Also usually when your done with the no perks no attachments you will have a good chunk of your revenge medals and double kills done. It makes all the ones you got while finishing some of he no perk no attachments challenges feel like freebies and helps keep moral up through your grind.

Well drew bust of luck bud.

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in reply to PerEverto13

Thanks man, its definitely giving me gray hairs.

I always use EMP grenades on every class, so preaching to the choir on that one :-P

I used to swear by Cold Blooded, but as it only really protects against the TF I started using Fast Hands. That perk really makes a difference as well, especially when I am switching to a rocket launcher to take out the UAVs. I also almost always have Blind Eye on as I hate being taken out by Killstreaks, but I suppose I can try playing without it to see if it makes that much of a difference.

I am going to try working on Art of War and Cherry Blossom at the same time from now on. It sounds much more efficient lol

Thanks for the advice!



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