Why? I can still go 10-0 in HC SnD without any perks. Tubes and Claymores FTW. Who needs perks in HC?
So what does that have to do with using toughness? I would at least run blind eye.
Basically Toughness is useless in HC. When I run Toughness by accident, it is like I am not running a Tier 2 perk. So I was saying who needs perks?
90% of the guns being used in HC are OHK, so no. Those that are not OHK won't take more than 2 shots. There is no such thing as flinch in HC because you are already dead if the bullet connects.
In responce to your question: no toughness is not needed for hardcore because you die too quickly for it to have an effect on you.
I use to play core and toughness was definitely needed to get those med to long range kills. But is it needed in HC
100% waste of a point in HC.
many cheeky headshots later toughness is wasted in core as well as hardcore, strafing with stock adds about 10x more survivability, than that perk could ever do.
its a useful perk, but once you learn how to get on target fast and aim lower, then its a crutch for bad players, and not to mention i could never give up scavenger and be forced to go gun hunting