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Am I missing something? I've always paid $100 for COD + pass. This year it will cost me $130 because I've just got the XB1X and the new ASUS 4K gaming monitor and I want to see how the enhanced version of BO4 plays on it. Thus the extra $30. 

Goingdeep747
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In the past we paid $100 for a COD w/campaign, Zombies and a MP with 13-15 shipped maps. You also got the seasons pass that came with at least 4 Zombies maps and 16 additional MP maps.

 

As of right now, in BO4 I'm only aware of 8 MP maps (5 remakes) with a pass that will only get you 12 additional MP maps through the year. That's a grand total of 20 MP maps for $100.

 

By comparison, with BO2 we got 15 MP maps that shipped with the game plus 16 additonal dlc MP maps for $100. In BO3 we got 13 MP maps with the game plus an additional 16 MP maps with the dlc for $100.

 

Maybe this is the new reality?

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@Mohumpus wrote:

In the past we paid $100 for a COD w/campaign, Zombies and a MP with 13-15 shipped maps. You also got the seasons pass that came with at least 4 Zombies maps and 16 additional MP maps.

 

As of right now, in BO4 I'm only aware of 8 MP maps (5 remakes) with a pass that will only get you 12 additional MP maps through the year. That's a grand total of 20 MP maps for $100.

 

By comparison, with BO2 we got 15 MP maps that shipped with the game plus 16 additonal dlc MP maps for $100. In BO3 we got 13 MP maps with the game plus an additional 16 MP maps with the dlc for $100.

 

Maybe this is the new reality?


All are very valid points.

 

My hope is, by this move, they are eliminating "bad" maps vs just saying "we gave the community 30 maps". Some maps just never get played ( or low play numbers ) when they come in rotation. Aftermath from O2 and Rupture from O3 come to mind quickly, but there are a few others that just didn't "flow" correctly and most players backed out of the lobby making those maps virtually useless and a waste of GB's. 

 

If making the game more fun by making less ( but better ) content, I'm all for it. 

 

 

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My biggest gripes I've pretty much said but multiplayer the annoying thing is it doesn't track by kills but damage which is a lame overwatch style I'm not a fan of.  Having a shield on top of needing more bullets to kill with 5v5 makes it a turn off when your forced to use different specialist when a majority of us tailor our classes around a certain specialist. Seems like they went to a area of multiplayer I'm not looking forward too.

 

On top off that I'm a hardcore player so I know we'll see less modes while giving people the ability to get their health back from the stin packs means it's no longer hardcore because hardcore you never re-heal after getting shot. So with this the multiplayer is a lose to me. If I ever do buy bo4 it will be for zombies and battle royale and there's been no word on blackout yet so I'll be playing the waiting game. This cod has no cod feel to it besides the specialist and similar way you shoot with damage streaks if they don't call them kill streaks.

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@Goingdeep747 wrote:

@Mohumpus wrote:

In the past we paid $100 for a COD w/campaign, Zombies and a MP with 13-15 shipped maps. You also got the seasons pass that came with at least 4 Zombies maps and 16 additional MP maps.

 

As of right now, in BO4 I'm only aware of 8 MP maps (5 remakes) with a pass that will only get you 12 additional MP maps through the year. That's a grand total of 20 MP maps for $100.

 

By comparison, with BO2 we got 15 MP maps that shipped with the game plus 16 additonal dlc MP maps for $100. In BO3 we got 13 MP maps with the game plus an additional 16 MP maps with the dlc for $100.

 

Maybe this is the new reality?


All are very valid points.

 

My hope is, by this move, they are eliminating "bad" maps vs just saying "we gave the community 30 maps". Some maps just never get played ( or low play numbers ) when they come in rotation. Aftermath from O2 and Rupture from O3 come to mind quickly, but there are a few others that just didn't "flow" correctly and most players backed out of the lobby making those maps virtually useless and a waste of GB's. 

 

If making the game more fun by making less ( but better ) content, I'm all for it. 

 

 


Thats a pretty wild assumption considering from what i have seen, there has been almost no effort to change anything between the BO4 and BO3 gameplay outside of tweaking some settings. Given this is all personal opinion but it still looks and feels like Treyarch went completely LAZY this year. To assume the maps are going to be so much better based off the maps I have seen, not really super impressed. They don't look horrible but they don't look like anything to brag about either, maybe just average, We can probably expect those to be their opinion of the best maps since they are typically all about hype insteand of content. 


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I'm still hopeful that more MP maps will be revealed during the beta and before the launch of the game. As of right now there's simply not enough MP maps to hold my interest for more than a month or two (max). I don't care if all 8 maps are fair to good. I know that with only 8 MP maps I'll be bored by December. And to make matters worse, I'm on Xbox so I'll have to wait an additional month to see any new content.

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@Mohumpus wrote:

I'm still hopeful that more MP maps will be revealed during the beta and before the launch of the game. As of right now there's simply not enough MP maps to hold my interest for more than a month or two (max). I don't care if all 8 maps are fair to good. I know that with only 8 MP maps I'll be bored by December. And to make matters worse, I'm on Xbox so I'll have to wait an additional month to see any new content.


Yeah, I am not really picky with maps in regards to big, small, medium, except when they throw you into the same map over and over again. Even the maps I hate I will play but for some reason, the ones I hate are the ones that get picked the most often.

I think the DLC thing is the killer for me on the franchise now. Maps always kept it fresh for me and even in the years they actually gave you more maps in DLC, unlike WW2 and BO4's cheap ass, I would still get bored of them rather quickly so less maps is a deal killer for me. WW2 was the first year I didn't order DLC and it was the shortest I have ever played a COD. The other issue is like in IW, I did get the DLC package and still quit early but only due to the performance after the DLC maps dropped and I liked that game.

So I guess the one thing they decided not to do this year compared to what competitors are doing, which was having DLC packages again, is what ultimately will be the reason I won't even bother with beta this year. I don't think any type of hype is going to get me past the reduced content in the amount of DLC maps along with the poor performance I will experience due to a split community and this year, it starts from day #1 vs at least having a few months before the online performance goes bi-polar when the first DLC package drops.

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So I've been playing bo3, so I'll be better at b03.5...  

And in the black market it says blackjack got a shipment of m14s. Available in rare supply drop for a limited time. So I'm thinking cool it's basically like a 100% chance your first rare supply drop will have an m14... nope.. I've got at least 15 to 20 rares... still nothing... They're just theives.

Edit.

Also the last 3 times I've gotten wraith raps... magically I "lost connection to host".

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@gotsomestars wrote:

So I've been playing bo3, so I'll be better at b03.5...  

And in the black market it says blackjack got a shipment of m14s. Available in rare supply drop for a limited time. So I'm thinking cool it's basically like a 100% chance your first rare supply drop will have an m14... nope.. I've got at least 15 to 20 rares... still nothing... They're just theives.

Edit.

Also the last 3 times I've gotten wraith raps... magically I "lost connection to host".



@gotsomestars wrote:

So I've been playing bo3, so I'll be better at b03.5...  

And in the black market it says blackjack got a shipment of m14s. Available in rare supply drop for a limited time. So I'm thinking cool it's basically like a 100% chance your first rare supply drop will have an m14... nope.. I've got at least 15 to 20 rares... still nothing... They're just theives.

Edit.

Also the last 3 times I've gotten wraith raps... magically I "lost connection to host".


I got my M14 the first day it was released. 

 

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I've got all the guns, most of them on the day of release. And I can't prove it, but that seems to be a factor in acquiring them. I save up all my "keys" until a new gun is announced, only then on THAT DAY will I spend the keys and I've gotten many guns that way.

 

The other is to play the "triple plays" and "no dupes" challenges. And again, don't spend them until a new gun is released in the future, and cash in on the release day. You might not get the newest gun, but I've found the boxes are much more generous on day one. 

 

Heck I got the Dragoon the next spin after the M14. 

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@Goingdeep747 wrote:

@gotsomestars wrote:

So I've been playing bo3, so I'll be better at b03.5...  

And in the black market it says blackjack got a shipment of m14s. Available in rare supply drop for a limited time. So I'm thinking cool it's basically like a 100% chance your first rare supply drop will have an m14... nope.. I've got at least 15 to 20 rares... still nothing... They're just theives.

Edit.

Also the last 3 times I've gotten wraith raps... magically I "lost connection to host".



@gotsomestars wrote:

So I've been playing bo3, so I'll be better at b03.5...  

And in the black market it says blackjack got a shipment of m14s. Available in rare supply drop for a limited time. So I'm thinking cool it's basically like a 100% chance your first rare supply drop will have an m14... nope.. I've got at least 15 to 20 rares... still nothing... They're just theives.

Edit.

Also the last 3 times I've gotten wraith raps... magically I "lost connection to host".


I got my M14 the first day it was released. 

 

IMG_1136.JPG

 

I've got all the guns, most of them on the day of release. And I can't prove it, but that seems to be a factor in acquiring them. I save up all my "keys" until a new gun is announced, only then on THAT DAY will I spend the keys and I've gotten many guns that way.

 

The other is to play the "triple plays" and "no dupes" challenges. And again, don't spend them until a new gun is released in the future, and cash in on the release day. You might not get the newest gun, but I've found the boxes are much more generous on day one. 

 

Heck I got the Dragoon the next spin after the M14. 

IMG_1137.JPG


And this right here is exactly what's wrong with the system. If you don't see the issue here I don't know how else to show it. Why should you have it day 1, while I've been grinding since day 1 and still haven't gotten a single weapon on one account and ONLY 4 on the other?

And its all luck. No Skill. Nothing to do with it. Just terrible luck and a terrible system. You wanna know what makes it even worse? They gave me a large quantity of keys. Like thousands, for messing up my account. So not only have i grinded 3 years but also got a ton of extra keys and still only have 4 weapons.... Name one positive aspect of a system like this.. There are none. And the wording makes it worse. It makes it sound (to someone who doesnt know theyre thieves) that you will get an m14 in your first rare supply drop. But nope.. it's a crap system from a bunch of thieves and I (and many others) will not buy another cod with this type of bs. And here's the worst part. I LOVE the gameplay in bo3. It's my favorite modern cod. But I can't stand playing it.  Because I feel like I'm getting screwed the entire time I play.

I also think it might be cause my kd is pretty high.

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