S12 warmed up to me, obviously just a small map gun but it was a good ride, I remember using the gun and thinking "Wow, can't wait for the KSG this is terrible." later on I loved the S12 and could not stand the KSG but thankfully it was an easy Gold.
I've done everything in Core, and I like the extra challenge but the M1216 may lead me to HC just because I don't want to always stand point blank behind someone for a OHK as that's just a pain.
Yes the spamming was actually pretty fun. ;p not the only reason I liked it though.
Its OHK range is still pitiful in HC, just to forewarn you. However, you'd be surprised at the reach it has if you ADS and land all 4 bursts. I warmed up to this one a little bit in HC, especially when I had the OHKs finished off. The bloodthirstys weren't too difficult to get, although the no attachments challenge was pretty painful
My Remington has diamonds to go with its LS and LB. Its a weapon I am very familiar with by now.
If anything needs doing to shotguns, the S12 and M1216 need to be made more viable in Core. Especially they S12, second worst gun in the game IMO.
I game with biels alot.. the guys knows his stuff when it comes to shotties,
The S12 is rediculous I see people going like 70-10 all the time with that gun
The S12 is the worst shotgun in the game and has terrible range (even equipped with the long barrel).
It's easier to do consistently well with hipfiring SMG's or select fire FAL's compared to using a shotgun.
Shotguns suffer at range and if you're dying to them within CQC range, you deserve it.
Lastly, I've yet to be killed by the S12 and I die twice as much to SMGs compared to shotguns (including the R870)
Can you people stop complaining about how some guns are overpowered ? First it was the SMG and now this .. If you think the weapon is strong then play with it ! Don't blame other people for using it .. And if you don't wanna use it then you just have to live with it dude
I hate the R870. Not because it's a Shotgun, I love shotguns, but because it's so damn unreliable. I'm sick of ADSing at people from a few meters away and getting hitmarkers, and when I run into another remmington user, I'll ADS, fire first and get hitmarkers, they hipfire from the same distance and get a OHK, nearly every time (with or without the laser sight). Me and my mates watched some games back in theater the other night and were just laughing, didn't know what else to do really. Yes I daresay some of it is down to lag comp but not all of it all the time. Give me the MW3 1887 any day.
After the constant failures regarding shotguns since MW2, I might be happy with this games shotguns. After trying (And succeeding) to get the MW3 Pre patch KSG to gold, they might of nailed it.
The 870 is a pump action shotgun, and is difficult to use against multiple people (In theory, people appear to be retards half the time) because of that. It needs the longer OHK range because of its lower fire rate.
Anybody that says the Remington isn't OP is saying that so their most used gun doesn't get nerfed.
I was just playing, and as usual getting frustrated with the lag, getting insta-killed with akimbo machine pistols, getting 6-7 hitmarkers and dude won't die, no hitmarkers at point blank, etc. I switched over to the Remmy and owned, and i almost never use shotguns. You don't even have to aim... come around corner with your gun up, guy is anywhere close you shoot and 8 of 10 times it is a one and done.
Anyway, I may start using them until they get nerfed proper. Hope the snipers are next, they are as easy to use as shotguns.