I really wanted to start a thread complaining and raging about lag comp, but no point, most of you are expereincing it also and it doesn't seem like Activision is even looking at these forums.
Let me start by saying I'm by no means an expert on any of this...(so please don't jump all over me, I'm just going by my connection and what I've experienced)
However one thing I'm seeing on here as well as youtube... most people seem to think their gaming connection and lag comp is determined by their download and upload speeds. unfortunately the PS3 conenction test is very flawed because it doesn't show whats most important regarding your connection. Your PING.
People assume because they have slow download or upload speeds they have bad internet connection for gaming. Not true.
Download and upload speeds actually mean very little at all. I have proven this over and over again with my own connection.
I currently have 25MB download speed, and 3.5MB upload speed. generally with about a 5-10ms ping which is extremely low. I recently lowered my internet plan to 3MB download hoping this would also RAISE my ping. Unfortunatly it didn't, my ping remained the same. Blops 2 also played the same.
The fact is thorugh your router you can lower your DL and UL speeds. I can lower mine to like 1MB DL, and 40KB UL, and even stream a netflix movie while playing.... game still plays the same because my ping is so low.
So I thought instead of people just talking about their internet speeds.... how about we share our actually speeds more accurately and descrine how the game plays for you good or bad. Seeing the ping from eveyone says alot more than anything else in my opinion.
So, go to speed.net and post your results.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2323165271.png (DL 25.09, UL 3.64, PING 5ms)
My problems with lag comp started with Blops 1. The game played fine for me except when I hosted. And I seemed to host quite a lot. 9 out of 10 times things weren't going my way I knew I was being screwed by lag comp and that I was host. The good thing about Blops 1 is when you QUIT, if you were hosting you would always see the host migration thing, so yes, I knew I was hosting. (I didn't rage quit, it was like a side game for me, I knew if I quit I'd see the host migration come up, like i said 90% of the time i was right)
When not hosting the game was enjoyable.
MW3, forget about it, just completely unplayable.... and so far blops 2 is pretty much the same. I bought blops for zombies with the idea that if MP worked it would just be a bonus.
I do miss the good old days where having the best speed meant your gaming experience was the best. This should be the benchmark and what people should strive for. If you are lagging and the game plays bad, then you should get better internet. If you can't afford it or live in a place that doesn't allow it thats unfortunate. But why should people with good internet suffer?
Its like a car race and making the guy with the festerst best car use a restricter plate to make it far for the rst of the drivers.
I understand lag comp is in every game, and its something we all need. Funny though how for years and years none of us ever hard of it? Games do need balance but this isn't working. COD was GREAT before Blops 1.
thanks for reading my lengthy post and please sahre your speedtest results as well as how the game plays for you (good or bad)
Ping is variable to what you are trying to connect to. My average is 20ms, Upload is 5mbs, Download is 15mbs.
I ran 3 speed test just now. 5MS ping.
I assure you its not my network having the issue. Yet I LAG all the time. My KD blows, wins..wait what wins?
My connection - Due to the nature of my work not beacuse I can afford it.
PS3 ---hard wired---Cisco 6509 core swtich --> Cisco ASA Firewall --- > (2) 10GB Internet connections. each connection has 2 diffrent ISPs and I have tried 4 diffrent dedicated routes nothing works. However EVERYTHING else works at light speed.
BTW the top 4 ISP's above provide US/CA backbone internet. Tier1 providers. Can't beat that.
Test all you like, the only ping that matters is the one between you and the host, and you can't test that.
Sennalike is 100% correct! The test you are running is between your nearest provider and your location, not that of the host in the game.
Those tests are actually good start points
They tell you, about the ping from your home to a nearest server.
Some people lose latency right there, due to bad wireing , long distance to isp hub or crap isp itself.
As I said, I'm not an expert on any of this...however I experienced lag comp with Battlefield 3 as well for the last year (so have many others) and that game is on dedicated serers. (no hosts) Not nearly to the degree of this game, but it was in BF3 at times for sure.
Maybe there is more going on with the matchmaking in this game and hosts. But I think the bigest issue is still good vs bad internet connections. (pings)
ok guys that makes sense.... wasn't thinking of it that way!
however....I would still be interested to see what peoples baseline internet really is! people who say their intenet is crap or say its great.... is it really?
Wether its good or bad, still must make a difference when conencting to the host? or am I mistaken there as well?
or maybe people like me and nasir with low 5ms pings are hosting more often thus experiencing more problems?
(i know hosting for me sucked in blops1)
I'm not too sure on how it all works really all I know is during the day time people move so fast its just not even fair. Like they move ten times faster than me and I'm dead before I can react. I'm thinking to counter the lag comp I should try messing the the sensitivity thing. Either way I know how ya feel and its just insane but they won't fix it.
I'm in Wisconsin and with my closest server I get around a 35ms ping/30mbs down/4mbs up...
However, I think if you take the time to actually try out servers all over the US then you get a better feel for how your internet stacks up.
With a server from L.A. I get 75ms ping/21 down/4 up.
With a server from Miami I get 60ms ping/18 down/4 up.
Typically I get paired with other users in the midwest, so I'd expect a ping around 40-50ms on average for each game.
I get killed in lag comp whenever I'm the host... Have in all the recent COD games. Drives me nuts when on my screen I get off 4-5 shots (and hit markers) but on the killcam my gun never even goes off... This game seems to be worse than MW3 for me personally. I get the occassional game where it plays beautifully, but it is quite rare.
It's something I've learned to deal with, but it does take away a bit from the enjoyment in the game. My connection isn't even all that great but when I get picked as the host the game becomes basically unplayable.