11 Replies Latest reply: Aug 8, 2013 12:07 AM by Momba1 RSS

    Lag comp should be removed from the game.

      its the worst thing to happen to this game. half clips emptied into peoples backs/chest not 1 registers or hit markers, then they just 360 jump and kill you in 1 shot.  It's ridiculous. Why punish people for having good connections?? If people got **** internet connections its time for an upgrade not make them feel special and handicap the rest of us..

       

      whoever decided lag comp was a good idea should be fired.

        • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.

          there really is no point complaining about it, everyone knows and it will NEVER get fixed ,

           

          seriously there is no point anymore the game is rubbish.pc dev has been tweeted thousands of times about the lag compensation, with no reply ever..

           

          yet if u tweet him something irrelevant ,he will reply..

           

          the only fix which we all know is proper dedicated  servers.. which will NEVER happen ..

           

          Treyarch already know this ... they are not stupid..,

           

          you have to deal with it...

            • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.

              Rich0 wrote:

               

              there really is no point complaining about it, everyone knows and it will NEVER get fixed ,

               

              seriously there is no point anymore the game is rubbish.pc dev has been tweeted thousands of times about the lag compensation, with no reply ever..

               

              yet if u tweet him something irrelevant ,he will reply..

               

              the only fix which we all know is proper dedicated  servers.. which will NEVER happen ..

               

              Treyarch already know this ... they are not stupid..,

               

              you have to deal with it...

              LOL!  This ^^^  Especially this, "yet if u tweet him something irrelevant ,he will reply.."

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              Lag Comp in general isnt the issue, Lag comp has been around for many many years. The problem lies in the TYPE of lag comp they are using. The type of lag comp they continue to use even though it fails badly since BO1 is called Rewind Time. More or less as 2 players encounter each other it calculates the MS of each person and then penalizes the person with the better connect by delaying the actions sent to the server.

               

              This in turn causes everything you see on the screen to be different in the killcam. Since your actions are delayed if you die the system tries to figure out if you should be sped up to your moment of death or let it gradually catch up. This is what causes bullets to magically bend around corners and why you die before you see people around corners.

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                Actually, it's not supposed to penalize anyone. This whole better connections get punished thing is just a ploy that those with good connections say and complain about when they die. Lag comp isn't the problem. In fact, without lag comp, this game would be even more unplayable then it already is. You wouldn't be able to shoot at some one and hit them as they wouldn't actually be there when you shot and they definitely wouldn't be there by the time the host got your data saying you fired. Meaning that any FPS that doesn't use lag comp would be the biggest failure of all time.

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                    Actually it IS penalizing the player with a good connection, just not directly.

                     

                    In this game they artificially add delay to the people with good connections, so the ones with bad connections aren't penalized for having that bad connection.

                    Yes other games have lag compensation, its a standard in most games (and an FPS without it would indeed fail) however that doesn't mean that lag compensation can't be done wrong.

                    Have there ever been a serious outcry about lag compensation in MW2?

                    I never really cried about it, that's for sure.

                    Has there ever been a large amount of people crying about lag compensation in Counter-Strike 1.6?

                    I never heard of it. (Yes CS 1.6 is dedicated server, and so is Black Ops 2, therefore there is nothing standing in its way from achieving something of similar experience as to counter strike 1.6)

                     

                    There's doing it right, and then there's doing it plain wrong, and this game sure didn't do it right.

                  • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.

                    I have to disagree about removing it. I'm 48 and have been online gaming since the quake and unreal days. We never had lag comp then and things were fine because everyone was in the same situation. You work around it, you adapt, you lead your shots or wait until you have the right angles, use rocket launcher for open spaces and rail gun for corridors etc etc.

                     

                    When everyone has the same playing field things are ok and you work around them. Giving you a random field and another player a different even more random one, is just asking for trouble

                      • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.

                        Couldn't agree more. I'm from the same early online FPS days of Quake and before and you learnt to deal with it by lead or trail shooting as the game server required. Nothing more satisfying than firing a (slow) rocket to predict where some one will run to, or hosing an opponent with a machinegun and lead firing them accross the map.

                         

                        What we had then, that we lack know, is consistancy. One player on the same server will be an unhittable god, another will react as you feel they should. This incarnation of Lag Comp won't allow lead and trail shooting as it won't even start the time rewind if your own pc isn't registering the hit. So you're damned if you do hit and damned if you don't. Which also seems to be why hipfire spray gets more kills the more they lessen the accuracy, as at least one hit is sure to trigger the rewind time.

                      • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.
                        spidy

                        main problem still is high latency's

                        sure lag-comp exsists on rented dedis also

                        but like i said the main problem is high latency's on rented server they tryed to limit high ping to 125-150ms

                        so lag comp wouldnt have that great of a impact

                        but BO2 mixes 10ms - 400ms players thnx to that great feature match-making and now Lag-comp is a big problem

                        • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.
                          Tintindye

                          hey Treyach why you just dont want to admit the issue and fix it ? This game could be the best COD ever but lag comp ruines completely this game PLZ PLZ PLZ FIX IT   !!!

                          • Re: Lag comp should be removed from the game.
                            Momba1

                            IF Lag Comp were removed then no one could kill the players unless they all were standing still. The 'problem' and where Lag Comp breaks down is when [highest ping] - [lowest ping > 75 ms and/or when players pings vary in-game > 30-50 ms. I've seen the 'moon walk' lobbies and the 'throw it reverse' lobbies. The fix for the variable ping folks is to Lag Comp them 'lower' which penalizes their 'less than stellar' aka crap connections.