27 Replies Latest reply on Jan 21, 2013 1:37 AM by playerone2 RSS

    RIP BO2: My Story

      Nov 2012


      Purchased BO2, excited that there's a new COD now and played it all night long. Several days went by, glitches here and there, but overall, matchmaking was fast, the teams were decent, and nobody really had the upper hand on one another due to the game being new and nobody was really used to it yet.


      Time goes by, fast forward to the Escort Drone glitch, Friend of mine calls an Escort Drone on Nuketown and can't figure out what killed him or why it killed him. Didn't see the Escort Drone in the sky. We both died at the same time, and I spawned on one side of a backyard, he spawned on the other. Immediately I see him get sliced to bits by the blades of a chopper! Glitch fixed, amazingly hilarious but now gone.


      Nuketown 24/7 map removed. Go figure. This starts the downhill fall.


      Dec 2012


      As a party, my friend and I played lots of games together, most of our BO2 careers in fact. He begins to notice that there are people that cannot die no matter what gun you're using, how much you spray at them, or how close/far you are form the opponent. He'd get rolled in a game while I go 10-5 or 15-8, and the very next game he'd end up going 19-6 while I go 2-21. Complete garbage, I know, but it was noticed as a problem around this time. It didn't matter if he was the party host or if I was, or what game mode we played. We'd get matched with people thousands of miles away from us and get destroyed.


      I played by myself some of the time in December, and even had an amazingly awesome 51-2 game that brought me a Swarm and VTOL from a care package in the same match on Carrier. Had a freaking blast.


      Several hotfixes released, a couple in a day one time if I remember correctly. Seemed good, Treyarch trying to do whatever they can to fix the issues that plagued us and even had enough respect for their customers to let us know what they changed in a couple updates. But then... after Christmas is when it really goes south.


      Jan 2013


      First week of January brought some fun, but not much. Really not much to say about it other than blah.


      Jan 8th, hotfix released, and was the last hotfix still to this date (Jan 16th). Absolutely abhorrent gameplay. Cannot find matches. Cannot get hit markers. Lag like you wouldn't believe. Partying up with friends proves to be the ONLY way I can find matches in BO2 multiplayer now. When I can actually find a match, it's with a bunch of Puerto Rican people.... they're almost 2000 freaking miles from me!!! Before the hotfix I was consistently matched with people from random parts of Ohio and Pennsylvania (I am from mid Ohio). There were some bad matches with those players but overall it was fair gameplay and had some fun. Clan Ops were actually possible to complete on the weekends, although the lag was consistently worse each weekend, and increases each weekend as well.


      Fast forward a little to Jan 14-16th.


      Decided that after 6-7 days of this hotfix that BO2 is completely NOT worth playing onlne at all anymore. Still no hitmarkers. Being killed form around corners. Screen shows me moving around the map and killcams show me standing still (and one even showed my character with his thumb up his rear looking all confused as to why I wasn't controlling it). When I try to move, my character snaps back to the position he was in originally, and when I stop moving, my character ends up snapping from one side of the map, or from the center of the map, all the way to the edge, ultimately resulting in many suicides by falling off the edge of the map.


      Clan Ops are now impossible to try to do. Domination results in going 5-25 each match. Core TDM results in maybe 8-16, sometimes worse. Forget Core CTF... 2-25 is consistnent now, when just last week alone (the Core CTF challenge before this hotfix on Tuesday night) I was able to do "reasonable" in anyone's mind.



      So, that's my story of how BO2 has declined to a completely unplayable state, and while I sit here writing this, I feel my blood boil at the fact that the last hotfix has destroyed a game I spent over 200 hours playing. I'll definitely be checking the game manufacturer of each game I purchase from here on out, because after this experience I know my mother would turn over in her grave if she knew I continued to put food on Treyarch's table.


      Farewell, BO2, and BO forum people! Sorry I didn't get to meet some of you seemingly awesome people, but as of right now, this game is now RIP status for me. Maybe in a couple months once they finally realize they're screwing us players, they'll undo what they did on Jan 8th and make this game playable again for me as well as many others who cannot stand the 23.446.21 hotfix.


      Edited to add: Since Jan 8th as well, I have noticed that lobbies are mainly now comprised of 6 players on one team who completely roll the opposite team. I stay and try to play a few games in each lobby before I back out and wait fifteen minutes to find another, after I block the player who I do not want to be matched with again. This isn't a "wait til the next game for things to even out" thing, either, I've tried and failed at this many times, fattening up kids' egos all across the world when I get this abhorrent lag and they think they're killing an AFK player.


      ETA: These 6 players (sometimes 5 on one side) are NOT in parties just about as often as I find groups who are in parties, so it's a 50/50 mix most of the time.


      ETA: youtube video of the sort of snapping around the map I am experiencing, coming soon. Waiting for it to upload now.


      ETA: Upload done. The first 10 seconds are where I am snapping around. The rest of the video appears to show my character moving normally, but I die in one shot (as usual, regardless of what weapon the enemy uses against me). Also, why do YouTube videos never show up properly on this forum? I've updated Java, Flash, etc, but no video that's ever been shared on this forum has appeared for me to watch it properly.



      ETA: Jan 18; 623p -


      Jan 16


      About 2 hours after I wrote this post, I wanted to try one more time to see if the game would play proper for me. I had about 20 matches which all played decently, and out of the final 3 matches I played Jan 16th night, there was only one match that gave me these snapping issues.


      Jan 17


      Played some more to see if things ran smooth. Aside from the occasional lag switcher I ran into (reported too, of course), I had a pretty decent experience. I found it pretty odd how things ran a lot smoother overall after I made this long post. I had a good percentage of really enjoyable games of Domination. So, things were starting to look up a little.


      Jan 18


      Today things are right back to the way they were. Snapping around the screen. Spawn and it looks like I'm swapping my weapons rapidly for 20 seconds. One guy on each team is doing amazingly well compared to all the rest. This happens no matter what lobby I get into. So, i went from Domination over to Hardcore TDM, which is my favorite. It gets worse. I jump into the Bonus Moshpit and while things still feel rough, it's a little better. Match just started, so I will be back later.

        • Re: RIP BO2: My Story

          Legitimate complaints.


          See you in the next shooter.

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            I feel your pain. The last hotfix initially put me on the bad side of lag for a few days. As usual, it sort itself out without me doing anything on my side. I rarely feel the lag anymore but I swear my stats went down when series .2x hotfix dropped.


            I hope the game will sort itself out for you just like it did for me.


            Anyway, see you on MW4.

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              I can agree with every one of these complaints. Ever since I hit Prestige Master, I cannot bring myself to play this game. Since now there's nothing to work for (I don't care for Diamond camouflage and Calling Cards), there's no point playing. The game just isn't fun.


              Unfortunately, I fell for the Season Pass. I got screwed over with the ELITE subscription and Battlefield 3 Premium, and I'm afraid it's happened again. So when the new maps come out, I'll most likely throw the game in and try 'em out.


              Man, it just pisses me off that I spent $79.99 on the Hardened Edition and $50.00 on the Season Pass, and the game is in this state where I don't even want to play it.


              I've learnt one thing from my experience with video-games in the past sixteen months - think before I buy. I must stop buying games on "impulse" and remember what has happened in the past.

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                  vespervin wrote:


                  Unfortunately, I fell for the Season Pass. I got screwed over with the ELITE subscription and Battlefield 3 Premium, and I'm afraid it's happened again. So when the new maps come out, I'll most likely throw the game in and try 'em out.


                  What? You got screwed for buying BF3 Premium? That premium is worth every dolar you gave, every dlc gave you 4 awesome MP maps plus weapons, vehicles, dogtags and so on

                  Only COD screwed you with ELITE because they didn't tell you maps are going to suck and and in some DLCs you will not get MP maps at all lol lol lol

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                  The lagfest started two weeks after release for me. The game was unplayable from then till January. Now it's tolerable, but nowhere near the connection I experienced the first two weeks. It might just take awhile.

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                    Sorry to hear about your bad experience. The last update made the game a bit worse for me but it has kind of evened out over the last few days. The one before on the same day was fantastic, made the game great for a few hours.


                    Funny though after reading your post I realize since the last update I'm seeing less 'Ohio' '440' '216' clan tags. (I'm from Cleveland.)

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                      I'm with you. Bring back hotfix 23.445.20. Everyone has said it was amazing and this hotfix is shite. After a week of shite, I've had enough and am now feeling like a proper mug for spending my money on the season pass. Game is unplayable. I'm lucky to end a game even. Had a solid evening on FIFA13 instead for the first time since I got it for Christmas.


                      Played a game on MW2 and MW3 today. It's so nice to play with a decent connection but highlights BO2 is actually a much better game, if it worked. Such a shame.

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                          Yeah, BO2's graphics and sound effects smash BO1 out of the water, hands down, but those features don't matter one bit when it comes down to playability. I'd rather have the quality of BO1 and MW3 mixed together on a --PLAYABLE-- BO2, rather than this fancy mess that is unplayable.


                          I did notice that in the 3 matches I tested earlier, when attempting to capture data, there were more OHIO tags, etc.


                          And hello there, Cleveland guy (that's my hometown!).

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                          Did this just happen one game or many games in a row with many different hosts?  I rarely hop around unless the host is very bad.

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                              Every single game I entered up until 2 hours after I made this thread did it. I changed absolutely NOTHING on my network or anything else. I just played a couple dozen games of dom with nearly no issues up until the very last 3 out of 4 games, the conditions came back aside from my very last game, which went seemingly smoothly, with nearly perfect hit marker accuracy and player-screen location sync.

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                              That was well written without any insults, good job.

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                                You seem to have had a truly awful experience, mate. If mine had been that bad, I'd have thrown the towel in, too. See you in MW4!

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                                    Mate i really feel for you. I completely get where your coming from with all this, i experience this all the time. I've stopped looking at the stats and to be honest i take the rough with the smooth now and it about equals itself out IMO.


                                    I certainly understand why people could possibly want to put this game down and never pick it up again though. Personally I love it, regardless of all its faults I think its really well thought out game and balanced (just not in terms of connection issues).

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                                    I live on the gulf coast here in the states. Every time I play against someone in Ohio I get screwed. I always have to make sure my encounters have a lot of distance so I can empty an entire clip, take cover, reload and repeat. If it’s CQC I lose the gun battle regardless of who shot first. It’s the same situation with people from Canada, New York and California.  Not sure if it’s the distance, routing of the data, my ISP or what but I can definitely relate to your frustration.

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                                      The games is  really unstable for me, I'll have a day where it's pretty fun and accurate and the next 5 days in a row are horrible.


                                      Even when I have good games I always wonder if the other team had horrible lag and just couldn't get me, kind of a catch 22.


                                      BTW to the op very well written post

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                                        later. nobody will miss you and you probably will continue to play anyway just as you take time to post of their forums.

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                                            No need to be a ****. You're obviously one of the very fortunate minority who can enjoy what you've spent your hard earned on as its intended. Some of us just can't play it because the quality of play is so awful.

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                                            That's nice dear...

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                                              the first 10 sec. where your "snapping around" looks more like a problem with your connection. would be quite the coince but its worth looking into. its looked like that a few times for me but only when the host is having connection issues or my modem or router is about to cut out.


                                              The 1 shot kill is what i experience 9 out of 10 games. to compensate you have to jump around corners and hipfire. as there will be the split millisecond you see the enemy before he sees you. camping and taking your time is not an option. i use ghost, it encourages me to keep it moving. and it keeps them from jumping around the corner on me as half the time they wont even be all the way in my screen before i die.


                                              It may be something with your router or modem. I know i went through 4 motorola sufboards. they would last about 2 weeks. then become very unstable. i think they will only work under 25mbps or something. ive also gone through a couple used linksys routers. they just burned out eventually.


                                              If you use a router. then connect straight to the modem(youll probably have to reset it). if it fixes it then it may be your router.

                                              If you use wifi then i hate you as your are my nemisis.


                                              Sometimes it could be your whole area.


                                              I now have a fancy modem with docsis 3.0. ohh... ahh...


                                              Pings are extremely low and the connection is very stable. my isp also uses "fiber optics" "optics" "optics" (echos). so im sure that helps.


                                              Unfortunaly this game is trash. and all the 50 millisecond ping from SoCal to NY means is a consistanly horrible disadvantage.


                                              Your router couldve been on the way out giving you a high ping. causing a slight advantage(swarm) beast mode status. just wait til you get a steady connection with low latency. banghead, face palm. insert emoticon here.


                                              PS. if you want to quit playing this game you must sell it now or break it in half. If it is accessible then resistance is futile.


                                              Good Luck

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                                                I read these posts everyday, I empathize with you guys. I just don't have these problems ever. Yes, I get the crappy host every now and then. Occasionally, no even rarely, do I notice lag comp. If I'm not playing well I just take a break and watch a movie. Maybe I'm just not thinking about it that much and these issues are destroying players' experience. Sucks, I wish this game would work for everyone.

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                                                  Updated OP with the last couple days' experience.

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                                                    I agree with Gomez, I have not had any of these problems. Other than the occational laggy host ive been relatively consistant since it released. i think is what it comes down to is the gameplay is evolving as people get more familar with the maps.


                                                    those of you that have had it since release know what im talking about. for the first 2-3 weeks it was awesome killing people left and right, peopel doing dumb things and just destroying everyone. and know that everyone is pretty familiar with teh "hotspots" "camp grounds" etc. the gameplay is starting to evolve and you have to account for this or just like is sports....if you cant adapt you are done....


                                                    for thos eof you havign these issues i say to really pay attention to the maps, use your heat maps on elite to determine where the hot spots are and use that info to create better strategies and whatnot

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                                                      ive had the game since release and am very well aware that it evolves as time progresses. adapt or die is the way you havr to learn how to play, and clearly i am aware of that. the disappointing part of it all shows its ugly face when the adapt or die concept turns into being rewuired to run ghost, silenced weapons that youve already golded and max prestiged instead of being the type of person who plays for achievements. also,this ugly face shows itself when you feel like the only way you can get the  kill in 97% of cq gunfights is by firing before you turn corners (giving away your position) or firing in the area you expect/guess someone to be in (also giving yourself away), and in turn you end up dying because someone fires a pistol at you from halfway across the map and you die in one or two shots. yes,im griping a bit, but i believe its with just cause.


                                                      updating op again within thr next couple days, busy today but will be home soon enough.

                                                        • Re: RIP BO2: My Story
                                                          Did you check your router. Do you know what your router is?
                                                          90% of my games are like that (minus the snapping). I went about 4-5 days once where i barely had trouble. i thought they fixed it. but no. k/d went right back to usual 1.2something. some nights Ill have 20 bad games and 0 good games.
                                                          Even if i go 30 and 10. if my bullets arent registering. or theyre doing 50% damage. then ill back right out. its about having fun. I dont care if i win or loose. i just want it to work properly.
                                                          buying this game is like buying a car with a blown transmission. you can drive it but its not going to run right.