16 Replies Latest reply: Aug 5, 2012 3:49 PM by supervelous RSS

MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using

supervelous

Hey all, Read the reports of the weapon buffs including the UMP, and proceeded to try it and had my best game ever with it!  Have any of you noticed a difference, is it just placebo effect?  What about the other weapons?  Has an official answer been released?

 

 

If it has, I think the UMP is back!  It felt stronger to me!

 

  • Re: Did You Fall Victim to the Placebo Effect?

    People in the last few hours are saying the patch was resent and now works. I've not retried it tonight tho so test it out lol

  • Re: Did You Fall Victim to the Placebo Effect?
    maccabi

    supervelous wrote:

     

    Hey all, Read the reports of the weapon buffs including the UMP, and proceeded to try it and had my best game ever with it, then started reading unconfirmed reports it hasn't yet been buffed.  Have any of you noticed a difference, is it just placebo effect?  What about the other weapons?  Has an official answer been released?

     

    Anyone else fall victim to the placebo effect?

     

     

    wanders round forum with a broom.. what the party..oh you missed it guess you were late we're clearing up the after effects now

    • Re: Did You Fall Victim to the Placebo Effect?
      supervelous

      I'm still confused, I didn't see anything official.  I had thought it had been buffed, and it sure felt like it to me, people were dropping fast it felt almost like MW2 UMP all over again.

       

      I see other threads but it seems people still aren't 100%, I didn't have to download anything on my console, did you?  No update or anything that I noticed.

  • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using

    wut were you using on it, rapid fire silencer?  it was killing very quickly especially when you hjad specialist bonus.  good to see a moab in a non-objective game moving around a lot and without an op weapon,  nice..but maybe this will be the new op weapon soon

  • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
    Pir0RRR

    yesterday make one with m16

  • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using

    THE BUFF IS OUT! I'M 100% CERTAIN. TRUST ME.

  • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
    gdexter

    How do you not get bored!?

     

    You do realise there are another 3/4's of that map you left untouched yes??

    • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
      supervelous

      i ran around the whole time, yes on 1/4 of the map, but that's how you win effectively in free for all the way the spawns work in that mode, also that area is the perfect area for SMG's, all CQC, I'd be dead meat going down the stairs near A domination, the long sightline of B domination, the middle of the map which gets you killed, etc. 

       

      I didn't camp, just used the part of the map that catered to the strengths of my weapon.  To me, that's one of the biggest parts of becoming better at the game, controlling your engagements.  (staying away from sniper areas with your UMP, etc)

       

      Thanks for watching and for your feedback!

       

      FYI, here's how I play TDM, definitely don't get bored

       

      • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
        gdexter

        Funny because I don't camp in FFA and I win matches a number of times running and gunning - smg's, ar's and with lmg's...

        • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
          supervelous

          I respect your opinion.  So, in your opinion for a MOAB to be legit you would have to run 100% of the map never stopping.  I saw you said that in another thread.  Anything else is camping?

           

          I thought camping was staying in 1 spot, near a headglitch, or 1 room or tiny area barely moving waiting for people to pass by?

           

          So, what about my TDM MOAB above, was that camping?

          • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using

            It's irrelevant whether you camped or not. MOABs happen because of the broken lag compensation, not skill. You would not get any MOABs if you played on my connection, trust me. Don't you find it odd at all how unskilled all of your opponents seem to be? They either don't shoot back at all or miss by 10 feet. If they happen to hit you, you just don't die.

             

            My Black Ops K/D is over 2. My MW2 K/D was about 1.7, if I remember correctly. My MW3 K/D is around 1. Same run'n'gunning play style in all games.

             

            This game is not about skill. It's about who gets the lagvantage.

            • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
              supervelous

              I completely agree that connection is HUGE in this game, but to say it's 100% about who gets the lagvantage is too simplistic of an analysis IMO. 

               

              First off, let me say that I don't in any way think getting a MOAB makes me a good or great player.  I am approaching 100 MOABs and they do not excite me any more, I don't get nervous on high gunstreaks, or think I'm amazing when I get one - I don't think theyre special.  I move on to the next game.  Too many people come on here post their MOABs with a braggy attitude "hey look at me".  Above I was simply disagreeing with the opinion that I did any sort of "camping" in the vid. 

               

              On the lag advantage part, it's huge and I have firsthand knowledge of it - I am currently visiting my parents in RI and brought my Xbox.  I am playing to about a 1.8 KD here when I am a 2.50 at home.  Some of it is I am using M16 a lot testing the buff, some is I am playing on an old TV instead of my monitor at home, and don't bring my headset.  But some of it is absolutely connection, I can tell - I lose a lot more head on gunfights.

               

              But as I said before it's too simplistic to say everyone who has a great game or a MOAB did so because of connection.  In the game above, I worked an area of the map containing about 4 spawn points.  I knew the spawns, I ran back and forth working the area.  The players in the lobby may not have known the spawn system and also may not have been as skilled as me.  Add in after 7 kills I had the distinct advantage of every perk and proficiency in the game with Specialist Bonus.

               

              You'll see I get a lot of kills from the back and sides of enemies - combination of working the spawns, using my headset (I could hear people coming when with Specialist Bonus - Sitrep Pro), and knowing the routes poeple usually take. Connection advantage or disadvantage would show up in head-on, come around the corner at the same time type of gunfights, which I didn't have that many in the above gameplay.


              It's too easy,but unfair and incorrect, to write off every good game as "connection" and every bad game as "connection". 

               

              To my knowledge anyway, the connection advantage in this game goes to those with bad internet more than good internet.  To this point, I have 50 download/8 upload connection with Optimum Online Boost Plus in Norwalk, CT.  Not to say that I never get connection advantage, I do know I get host a lot, bc in the few occasions I leave a game, I see a lot of Host Migration pop up as I leave.  But the general view is there is a host disadvantage in this game.

               

              I'd guess that for you to be doing bad at MW3, and connection being a big factor, you have good internet rather than crappy, correct?

               

              I do notice there is a general dislike of MOAB gameplays on these forums, and no doubt fueled by them being posted all the time, by players not contributing anything else, who post in a braggy way, in an objective game, using OP weapons etc.  So I can understand that.  Just putting my 2 cents in.

               

              Once again, thanks for your post - great opinion and well written.

              • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
                gdexter

                All I can say is LOL at you taking this GAME so seriously.

                 

                I care not for your kd's from other GAMES.

                 

                Camping is not tied to a corner. Camping is staying in one area for an entire match, be it a corner or a room.

                 

                Besides which you were spawn camping.

                • Re: MW2 UMP is Back!!?  MOAB 1st Time Using
                  supervelous

                  when did I say I took it "so seriously"?  Also, I never stated my KDs from other games. 

                   

                  Fortunately for me, I do not seek your approval for how I play, or for what I consider to be "camping" or fun.  Since it is just a game, I think you can agree that everyone should play however they want as long as they have fun with the GAME. 

                   

                  I respect your opinion, yet this discussion was not really to critique my gameplay, but rather to talk about the UMP45 and it's buff.  Have you used it since then?  If so, what are your thoughts?